Northern Sold
6:37 Sun Nov 5
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LYING CHEATING THIEVES
Anyone remember that banner? Would never happen now... too much elastic band flicking and popcorn gorging going on... apathy
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GreenStreetPlayer
6:34 Sun Nov 5
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Time to get serious.
Too late, by at least six years.
We are already vulnerable and exposed now not having a stadium as an asset. With such a contract in place, to force the owners now would leave us in a more perilous state.
We will just have to see how this all plays out in future, there are a few things that may happen. You never know they may actually benefit the club, but remember this is West Ham.
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Alex V
6:29 Sun Nov 5
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Johnson 6:24 Sun Nov 5
My understanding was that the terms in the stadium are very favourable to the club financially.
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dicksie3
6:28 Sun Nov 5
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They're the worst owners in the country.
Fucking lying despicable tight-arse parasite wankers.
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Johnson
6:24 Sun Nov 5
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Quite right V but it would have everything to do with who the owners WERE.
Fact is, anyone who understands anything about football finance would question the desire from BERKS Inc to not own their own stadium and rent.
They’ve signed a contract that effectively REDUCES our ability to make money over our rivals. Anyone defending or apologising for that massive error of judgement needs to have a word with themselves.
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stewie griffin
6:09 Sun Nov 5
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Sullivan isn't a West Ham United supporter. He supports Cardiff.
Given the bottom club in the league got 100 million from tv money alone last season we haven't done any business we couldn't have done if we'd stayed where we were. The one chance they did have to make a statement, they didn't, because they aren't good enough.
You're right about people loving names though. Inexplicably really. Why, we even had a thread on here a couple of weeks ago claiming we have a better squad than Liverpool and Arsenal. Laughable.
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Alex V
6:06 Sun Nov 5
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>>> if you want a board that will happily shell out £50-£75m for a player then you're wanting the next Sheik / Oligarch
Once again I point out that FFP rules probably mean we simply cannot do that at present. It has nothing to do with who the owners are.
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,
6:04 Sun Nov 5
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A few decent performances and results would quieten people down. It always does.
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Steven P
6:04 Sun Nov 5
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Gentile wants our owners to go bust. Which makes so much sense.
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dicksie3
6:00 Sun Nov 5
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It's a start, Gentile. As are the anti-board flags/banners fans have produced.
Things will get very ugly soon. They're starting to already.
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Jimmy The Hoover
5:56 Sun Nov 5
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Side of Ham 2:41 Sun Nov 5
Come on Hammey, have a word with yourself mate. You're going round in circles. What point are you arguing against? Yes, £25m may not be a lot in English football - I see the transfers I know that - but it IS too much for an average player, which was my point.
After that, if you want a board that will happily shell out £50-£75m for a player then you're wanting the next Sheik / Oligarch. That's fine if one wants to buy WHU but otherwise we're looking at owners such as we have. And what about those owners? Well, oddly they are actually real WHU supporters who've supported the club all their lives and want to push the club on. With the usual WHU mentality - we like one of our own - this should be seen as a good thing.
For as many complaining on here about 'these skinflint c***' there's loads wish we'd stayed at UP and just been a passionate, local club for local people. I wouldn't criticise either side but it's obvious the way G&S saw the future.
My issue with the £25m is we'd never buy a player like - picked at random - Glenn Murray because he wouldn't be big enough to satisfy the fans. Yet he scores consistently against us and looks good enough for the clubs he does play for. For a team like Brighton, he's grateful for the Premier League opportunity and fights for his place. We have someone like Sakho. Does he care about us and want to be here? What do you think? Is he technically better than Murray? Yea probably. Are we better off with him? You decide.
For me, we're a club stuck in the middle. Not as big as we want to be but too big to be able to get along in the same way as others around us in the PL. That include the owners.
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Gentile
5:54 Sun Nov 5
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Yeah lots of people shouting at them from 40 yards away will make them stop raping the club of all its money.
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dicksie3
5:52 Sun Nov 5
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I know for a fact that they're getting a shit load of verbal abuse at games from fans sat nearby.
Things are starting to get very uncomfortable for them - and they only have themselves to blame.
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,
5:52 Sun Nov 5
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Bet your bottom dollar if the owners sell up and it all goe tits up for the club Gollivan will get the blame for selling to the wrong people.
I can imagine a cure scenario where every PL club is foreign owned and eventually these owners will abolish promotion and relegation. Having done that they’ll next seek to move the team franchises from place to place. Welcome to the future.
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Full Claret Jacket
5:47 Sun Nov 5
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Johnson - My understanding is we did want to own the stadium and even won the right to before Spurs and Leyton Orient kicked up the 'state-aid' stuff.
You say yourself that Sullivan and Co spout nonsense and yet you then take his word that they 'always wanted to rent'. Sullivan will say whatever makes him look good as he is self centered and egotistical. He doesn't like it to look like someone has one over on him and in this case Levy and Herne did. He's not the only owner like that.
I'd say any protest in that ground has zero chance of success, There aren't enough 'fans' left. There are a load of modern day Premier League 'product' supporters who only care about spending 100m quid on some foreign bloke.
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nychammer
5:33 Sun Nov 5
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we are stuck with the stadium for the foreseeable. I haven’t been but it sounds awful from all accounts. So What are the options? Can we get athletics to fuck off and redevelop? Can we even redevelop it for football or is it a knock down and start again deal?
Any serious option will involve serous $$$ above and beyond what the clit ticklers are prepared to lay out. We have to hope for a buy out.
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13 Brentford Rd
5:15 Sun Nov 5
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I'm getting the feeling that the Spivs have got away with and will continue to do so. Seems like a lot of the more old skool fans have jacked it in due to disgust, apathy or just age.
Looking around at home games now I just can't see where any significant protest is coming from. Place is half full of Premier league tourists, hipsters and soppy wannabee Essex types.
Sad times!
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Johnson
4:33 Sun Nov 5
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Not sure they would have FCJ. Or if they did they’d have wanted to own it allowing redevelopment etc
BERKS Inc ALWAYS wanted to rent, Sullivan is quoted saying so. Yet idiots apologise for them by saying it the nasty stadium owners fault.
No, it’s BERKS Inc’s fault.
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Full Claret Jacket
4:29 Sun Nov 5
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The point is any owners of the club would be doing the same to the club. They would all have wanted out of the lop sided shit hole and into a new soul less stadium. They would have all tried for the London stadium if it looked available. Even the Icelandics wanted it.
I've no love of Brady, Sullivan and Gold. In fact Brady and Sullivan I find quite repulsive but the decisions they make are no different to what a lot of owners coming in would have done. Clubs in the Premier League dont care about local fans anymore. They dont make most their money from the gates these days. You are just a cash cow to be milked and spun bullshit to by marketing execs.
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AKA ERNIE
4:27 Sun Nov 5
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No idea mate but the fights still there from the olduns mate its just the new lot that are pathetic.
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Johnson
4:25 Sun Nov 5
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Fair point Ern. But it’s what it’s come to unfortunately.
How else are we going to provoke some pride in folk?
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